Long time no see. First let me say that I really miss Arev. This Seeker stuff is a bear. Anyway, we still have occasional need to get into HR-1. Everything was working fine until this week, and I think the problem is related to a client change.

I had a user that needed access to an area on the server, and I found that I did not have access to the Novell tools I needed, so I installed the Novell client for NT on my system (I had been using the Microsoft client).

Now I have the Novell tools that I need, but I can't log on. When I try to log on, LHIPXTSR takes a long time to load. When I try to launch the application, I get thrown out very quickly, evidently before the initialization process is complete.

I'm really a rooky when it comes to NT. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Are you running on NT Server?

1) 16 bit programs take an unusually long time to load on NT server.

LHIPXTSR is 16 bit. Lots of thunking going on and Server has to protect memory workspaces more stringently than Workstation.

2) How much memory? 64MB is the minimum I'd recommend running NT on. I've seen the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) take up as much as 32 MB of memory for unknown reasons. With more than 64MB 16 bit apps load faster. Plus each NTVDM session stays loaded even when you close it unless you end it later in the task manager. Talk about memory leaks.

3) Getting a TSR to load on NT is tricky. Odds are LHIPXTSR isn't staying loaded which is why ARev kicks you out. There is a utility to get DOS TSRs to work a little better with NT but I don't recall the name of it.

Search the messages on LHIPXTSR to see other relevant discussion.

]Are you running on NT Server?

How can I tell? I thought it was NT workstation, but there is a service called "server" that is running.

]1) 16 bit programs take an unusually long time to load on NT server.

LHIPXTSR is 16 bit. Lots of thunking going on and Server has to protect memory workspaces more stringently than Workstation.

But the thing is that it is taking much longer now than it used to take. The only change I made was to switch from Microsoft Netware client to the Novell client.

]2) How much memory? 64MB is the minimum I'd recommend running NT on.

I have 128 Mb.

]I've seen the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) take up as much as 32 MB of memory for unknown reasons. With more than 64MB 16 bit apps load faster. Plus each NTVDM session stays loaded even when you close it unless you end it later in the task manager. Talk about memory leaks.

If this is true, I should see it in the task manager, right?

]3) Getting a TSR to load on NT is tricky. Odds are LHIPXTSR isn't staying loaded which is why ARev kicks you out. There is a utility to get DOS TSRs to work a little better with NT but I don't recall the name of it.

The thing is, it was working just fine with the Microsoft client. Would a TSR load differently after just changing the client?

]How can I tell? I thought it was NT workstation, but there is a service called "server" that is running.

Different Bitmap at startup: will say server. Other clue would be the admin tools.

]But the thing is that it is taking much longer now than it used to take. The only change I made was to switch from Microsoft Netware client to the Novell client.

]If this is true, I should see it in the task manager, right?

Correct

]The thing is, it was working just fine with the Microsoft client. Would a TSR load differently after just changing the client?

Chances are it is a client issue if the LHIPXSTR is not talking to the Netware client properly. Check your settings in the Networking control panel. FWIW I was unable to get LHIPXSTR to work with both the Microsoft netware client and various versions of the Novell nw client on NT workstation 4.0 + sp3. Going to NT service was the 'solution'.

If you have the disk space why not copy it locally to your drive and run ARev without LHIPXSTR and networking drivers?

Victor,

First, you should only have Novell client 4.71 installed.  If you have installed the Microsoft client, uninstall it; if you have both installed, uninstall both.

Now, install 4.71, using only IPX, not IP over IPX.  This is critical.

That should do it.

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