Webmaster - Flat By Date on OpenInsight, etc (OpenInsight Specific)
At 26 NOV 1997 04:14:19AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
(also mailed directly to [email protected])
Webmaster,
I, and many with me, use the Flat By Date view to easier
catch replies to the not quite recent postings. But when
one is only interested in *one* product (in my case
OpenInsight), the Flat By Date view appears so clogged up
with irrelevant postings (i.e the postings for the other
products) that, at least to me, much of the advantage is
lost.
I feel certain that your database and query methods can
support both Flat By Date on a certain product and many
other combinations. What if you changed your Online
Discussion options to the following?:
(radio button group:) By Date (default) By Author Flat by Date (radio button group:) OpenInsight Revelation ViP/DX Network Products Revelation Reporter Advanced Revelation All Products (default) (button:) Go!- Oystein -
At 26 NOV 1997 06:04PM Don Bakke wrote:
Also, is there a reason that Flat by Date links won't indicate as already viewed even though I've seen these messages already from the OpenInsight Specific page?
Thanks,
At 27 NOV 1997 04:12AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Don,
If you look closely at the URLs you'll probably
find they're different, even if they link to the
same posting. I discovered this a few weeks ago
with the URLs in OpenInsight Specific view
and the URLs in the thread overview at the
bottom of each individual posting. The difference
wasn't more than some hex string sometimes being
in uppercase and sometimes in lowercase. That's
enough for your browser to regard them as different.
(And checking again today I see that the difference
is much greater now.)
When I discovered this I notified the Webmaster.
After that I observed that changes were being made
but matters only got worse (like for some time
author names in the thread overviews were in
lowercase).
I cannot understand it's so difficult to fix this
and I agree with you it's a nuicance. I'm sure
a lot of time is wasted checking postings twice.
And with the congested Internet (or perhaps it's
just the trans-Atlantic connection) I sure waste
a lot of time.
- Oystein -
At 01 DEC 1997 09:09AM Jennifer Revelation wrote:
We realize that some browsers do not indicate in the views if you have read a document by linking via the thread map in the documents. Oystein is correct; the capitalization is different depending on where the URL is and some browsers (such as Netscape) don't reflect the difference in the "read" status. We have tried to fix this, however, Domino does not generate URLs in a consistent manner. This seems to be a Domino (or Netscape, depending on who you talk to) limitation, at least for the time being. I have noticed that this is not a problem in Microsoft Explorer.
At 01 DEC 1997 09:22AM Jennifer Revelation wrote:
When we redesigned this forum, we addressed this issue by including the product name right in the Flat by Date view. This enables one to skim the view and click only on those postings that are about the product(s) one is interested in.
At 01 DEC 1997 11:56AM Don Bakke wrote:
I have noticed that this is not a problem in Microsoft Explorer.
FWIW, IE 3.02 is all I've been using for sometime now and I've noticed the problem.
At 02 DEC 1997 05:09AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Jennifer,
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You're right. I've compared Netscape 3.0 and Internet Explorer 3.0, and the latter performs better with your web site on at least three different points:
- The above (viewed links consistently highlighted).
- Copy and Paste from web documents. When you copy in Netscape you get this annoying string of 20 spaces at the beginning of each line.
- In IE the control where one enters the text for a new posting wraps lines. With Netscape it just scrolls until you hit the Enter key. It feels as if you're back in time to before word processors arrived.
(Note I'm not saying who's fault the problems are. For all I know the last problem, for instance, could be because of non-standard HTML codes.)
- Oystein -
At 02 DEC 1997 05:13AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Don,
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If you've seen my reply to Jennifer you know that I haven't got the problem in my IE 3.0. Maybe it's a setting somewhere.
- Oystein -
At 03 DEC 1997 05:24AM Robert Watson wrote:
The links are not highlighted in my copy of IE 4
Bob Watson
At 03 DEC 1997 07:12AM Oystein Reigem wrote:
Robert,
I just checked my IE 4.0 (I run both Netscape 3.0, IE 3.0 and a pre-release of IE 4.0) and unfortunately it's the same here. And I haven't been able to find a relevant setting in IE.
Does anybody know if there is a setting? I cannot find anything in View | Options. I cannot find any ini file for IE. I checked my Win95 Registry and found a lot of settings for IE (more than in View | Options) but nothing for case sensitivity of viewed links.
- Oystein -