We have finally installed OI 10.1 in our TestLab and during the post installation setup I discovered that applications I create with either my account or the SYSPROG account are not accessible to my team-mates. We have no problems with multiple accounts accessing the SYSPROG application with their own account credentials. I've noticed the 'Create Permissions" field in the application settings form; and it seems like the place I would need to add the users I want to have access to it.

If "Create Permissions" is, indeed, what I need to modify in order to allow access to multiple accounts to an application, I need some help with the "Create Permissions" control. When I open up the "Available Users" / "Selected Users' control it closes as soon as I click in it. I am not sure how I can get around this.

I just tried rebooting the server running OI 10 which did not help.

I also tried logging into the application with the application user and that did not help either.

Thanks for any advice.

We have finally installed OI 10.1 in our TestLab and during the post installation setup I discovered that applications I create with either my account or the SYSPROG account are not accessible to my team-mates. We have no problems with multiple accounts accessing the SYSPROG application with their own account credentials. I've noticed the 'Create Permissions" field in the application settings form; and it seems like the place I would need to add the users I want to have access to it.

If "Create Permissions" is, indeed, what I need to modify in order to allow access to multiple accounts to an application, I need some help with the "Create Permissions" control. When I open up the "Available Users" / "Selected Users' control it closes as soon as I click in it. I am not sure how I can get around this.

I just tried rebooting the server running OI 10 which did not help.

I also tried logging into the application with the application user and that did not help either.

Thanks for any advice.

This seems like you are in the Application Settings dialog. You will want to use the Settings > Users > User Setup tool.

Don Bakke

SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.

Thanks for your reply Don, unfortunately that was the first interface I tried thinking that each user might have a 'permissions' field for different applications. I don't see anything besides the "Full Name" down to the "Force Password Reset" fields on the right pane, and down below only the three buttons for "New User", "Delete User" and "List Users" buttons. Nothing here is indicating it has anything to do with allowing users to access an application.

Mike

Thanks for your reply Don, unfortunately that was the first interface I tried thinking that each user might have a 'permissions' field for different applications. I don't see anything besides the "Full Name" down to the "Force Password Reset" fields on the right pane, and down below only the three buttons for "New User", "Delete User" and "List Users" buttons. Nothing here is indicating it has anything to do with allowing users to access an application.

Mike

A bit of technical distinction: users are technically database users and not application users. That distinction is often blurred because when we launch OpenInsight as an application we have to log in as a valid database user and this functionality is bundled together.

That tidbit out of the way, if you want to allow user "MARY" access to application "MY_APP", you have to first login yourself as a System Administrator of the MY_APP application. Then when you go to the User Setup tool, clicking on the New User button will prompt you for the User Name. This is where you would enter MARY.

From here you can update the properties of the MARY user, such as Full Name, User Type, User Level, etc. As long as the User Type is "OpenInsight Only User" or "Both OpenInsight and O4W User" this user is good to go.

User Level is important depending on what type of access this user should have. If the user is only meant to run the application then "User" is the appropriate level. If the user is meant to develop or have some access to the development IDE, then either "Administrator" or "System Administrator" is what you want.

When finish you should right-click on the tab and pick Save. The system will warn you if there are any problems with the user, such as an invalid password pattern.

Don Bakke

SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.

Thank you Don!

I believe that may have cleared everything up. After joining this company and developing in OI 9.4 I never really understood the relationship between application and user. In OI 10 I never picked up on the 'user boundary' between applications.

So, If access to several applications is required by a small team of developers then I now assume that the steps you pointed out (logging into each of the applications with the app's system administrator [will be looking to see if SYSPROG can do this, but am thinking maybe not] and adding each of the users to be given access) are what it will take to get the job done.

I'll be giving this a try in the morning. I'm glad you quickly picked up on my lack of knowledge in that area :)

– Mike

Thank you Don!

I believe that may have cleared everything up. After joining this company and developing in OI 9.4 I never really understood the relationship between application and user. In OI 10 I never picked up on the 'user boundary' between applications.

So, If access to several applications is required by a small team of developers then I now assume that the steps you pointed out (logging into each of the applications with the app's system administrator [will be looking to see if SYSPROG can do this, but am thinking maybe not] and adding each of the users to be given access) are what it will take to get the job done.

I'll be giving this a try in the morning. I'm glad you quickly picked up on my lack of knowledge in that area :)

– Mike

Mike - I'm glad and hopeful this will put you on the right path. However, I want to be clear that what I shared applies to OI 9 as well as OI 10. The only difference is how you navigate to the right place via the IDE.

Don Bakke

SRP Computer Solutions, Inc.

Well after digesting what you wrote I can now look back and see how my user had to be added to each of our 9.4 web server OI applications. So back then I was starting to 'get it' but never spent enough time on that issue for it to sink in or cause me to research it further. Planning on putting this to the test today.

– thanks again :)

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